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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: WVU: UCF Backs Out of Another Game Reply with quote

Thought our WVU friends might like to see this.

UCF uses buyout

The Memphis Commercial-Appeal has reported that Tennessee has accepted a game buyout from Central Florida and replaced the Golden Knights on the 2007 home schedule with Louisiana-Lafayette.

Central Florida, which was set to play in Knoxville on Sept. 29, 2007, exercised its option and paid Tennessee $10,000 to cancel the game.

As a result, Tennessee has signed Louisiana-Lafayette for a game Nov. 3, and turned the Sept. 29 spot into an open date. That gives the Vols another week to prepare for SEC Eastern Division rival Georgia, which comes to Knoxville on Oct. 6, 2007.

The reshuffling preserves a seven-game home slate for Tennessee in 2007.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what the heck the UCF AD is doing but he's not creating a lot of goodwill with Big East members. This today from the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review:

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Pitt, Central Florida come to new terms on series
By Rob Biertempfel
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, July 19, 2006

NEWPORT, R.I. -- A scheduling snafu, which caused a small rift between Pitt and Central Florida, has resulted in some new terms to their deal for a three-game series.

"There were some misunderstandings, some assurances given that in the end weren't realized," Pitt athletic director Jeff Long said Tuesday. "We've had to go back and tighten up some nuts and bolts in the contract."

Pitt will play at South Florida at 8 p.m. Oct. 13.

The problem came about when the UCF-Marshall game was moved to Oct. 4, a Wednesday night, to become an ESPN2 broadcast. That meant the Golden Knights will have eight days off before playing host to Pitt.

The Panthers, who play at Syracuse on Oct. 7, will have less time to prepare. In a letter to UCF officials, Long noted the terms of the contract called for each team to have the same number of days.

Long said he did not know whether the final decision to move the UCF-Marshall game was made by Central Florida or by Conference USA.

Neither of the ADs -- UCF's Steve Slaon and former Pitt AD Steve Pederson -- who originally set up the three-game set are still with their respective schools.

Keith Tribble took over as Central Florida's AD just a few weeks ago. He and Long were able to hammer out a new agreement.

Long confirmed the financial part of the three-game contract was tweaked -- the buyout clause was upped -- although he declined to disclose numbers.

"It's a two-for-one series, and that's been re-confirmed," Long said.

Originally, the deal called for the series to start and end in Pittsburgh. Long said that changed because of television and conference considerations.

The makeup of the officiating crews also will change. A Big East crew will work this year's game in Orlando, Fla., and a C-USA crew will work the first game at Heinz Field. However, a Big East crew will be assigned for the final game of the series, which will be played in Pittsburgh.


Screw'em. They act like they have absolutely no chance of ever being courted by the Big East and, perhaps that is the case.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: WVU: UCF Backs Out of Another Game Reply with quote

Smokin Pirate wrote:
Thought our WVU friends might like to see this.

UCF uses buyout

The Memphis Commercial-Appeal has reported that Tennessee has accepted a game buyout from Central Florida and replaced the Golden Knights on the 2007 home schedule with Louisiana-Lafayette.

Central Florida, which was set to play in Knoxville on Sept. 29, 2007, exercised its option and paid Tennessee $10,000 to cancel the game.

As a result, Tennessee has signed Louisiana-Lafayette for a game Nov. 3, and turned the Sept. 29 spot into an open date. That gives the Vols another week to prepare for SEC Eastern Division rival Georgia, which comes to Knoxville on Oct. 6, 2007.

The reshuffling preserves a seven-game home slate for Tennessee in 2007.


In UCF's defense, they actually had a good reason for this. They bought out a road game with Tennessee so that they could have a home game versus Texas.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/college/orl-ucfgrid1906jul19,0,2959698.story?coll=tf-main-sports

As a non-BCS school, given the option, I would take the home game with Texas in a heartbeat.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there it is. UCF's appeal in a nutshell.....



Why else would Texas give UCF a home game?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[b]"In UCF's defense, they actually had a good reason for this. They bought out a road game with Tennessee so that they could have a home game versus Texas."[/b]

ECU did this with Syracuse and everyone wanted to hang them but it's okay since it's UCF and they are playing TEXAS. Bull crap, this is the 2nd time in as many years that they've done this.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have little problem with this as I see Tennessee as a school who will never lose sleep over their ability to schedule a home game with a patsie.

From what little I remember about the ECU-Cuse thing prior to buying out of the final game ECU tried to leverage the remaining game to get Cuse to return to Greenville at the tail end of a long contract. I personally take little issue with either as a attempting to negotiate something better is everyone's right, it is up to the other party to accept or refuse, and b ECU did have the right to buy out of the game.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SCMountaineer wrote:
Well, there it is. UCF's appeal in a nutshell.....



Why else would Texas give UCF a home game?


LOL Laughing Hey, man, if you got it, use it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smokin Pirate wrote:

ECU did this with Syracuse and everyone wanted to hang them but it's okay since it's UCF and they are playing TEXAS. Bull crap, this is the 2nd time in as many years that they've done this.


I understand your frustration, and, no, ECU should not be held to a higher standard than UCF. If ECU acted within the terms of the contract with Syracuse, then no one has any right to bash ECU. With that being said, I can't blame UCF for exercising the option in their contract with Tennessee in order to get a home game with the reigning National Champion. A home game with Texas will mean a lot more to the program and its fan base over the long haul than a road trip to Knoxville to play the Vols (and the SEC referees).
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With UCF, however, it seems to be going from acute to chronic. In any case, UCF is a prime example that gentleman's agreements are an anachronism in today's quest for dollars. Fortunately for the small schools, it is a seller's market and, if you think about it, how often do they get the opportunity to stick it to the big schools?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand, maybe UCF does have some issues.......
http://www.local6.com/firstnews/9546222/detail.html

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On the other hand, maybe UCF does have some issues.......
http://www.local6.com/firstnews/9546222/detail.html


I thought that only happened at WVU? Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pittbluegold wrote:

I thought that only happened at WVU? Laughing

Only one couch? What a lightweight. Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UCF (as well as ECU) are perfectly within their rights to cancel future games.

The questions I have are......

A $10,000 buyout??????? Buyouts tend to be much more substantial than that. I am sure UCF's will be in the future.

The issue about changing your future schedule is usually done to enhance and build up your program. It seems like UCF is cancelling these games and signing new 2-1 deals. That is not a good way to generate local interest in the program. It seems like with what people say they have going for them that they would be trying to build up their local fan base and put folks in their stadium every season.

When ECU bought out Syracuse they got multi-year 1-1 deals with WVU, Va Tech, Virginia, NC State, UNC, and Navy. UCF has gotten 2 for 1 deals with Texas and Pitt. Texas is a great team to be playing at home but they need to be building long term contracts with folks. Maybe try and get Texas for a 5 game series. 3-2. They should have tried to get Pitt 1-1 or 2-2. Texas most likely would not have gone for it but when you schedule any team for a 2-1, especially Pitt, any BCS team is going to expect the same deal. It is a bad policy for the future.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cuse22 wrote:

When ECU bought out Syracuse they got multi-year 1-1 deals with WVU, Va Tech, Virginia, NC State, UNC, and Navy. UCF has gotten 2 for 1 deals with Texas and Pitt. Texas is a great team to be playing at home but they need to be building long term contracts with folks. Maybe try and get Texas for a 5 game series. 3-2. They should have tried to get Pitt 1-1 or 2-2. Texas most likely would not have gone for it but when you schedule any team for a 2-1, especially Pitt, any BCS team is going to expect the same deal. It is a bad policy for the future.


Being originally from NY(City of NY), I enjoyed ECU playing BE schools particularly Syracuse and WVU. With that said hope in the futeure Syracuse and ECU can get another series going. There were some excellent games for both sides of the series.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UCF is showing itself to be a 2-bit operation. That won't sway any future votes in the Big East if they want to apply for membership at some point in the future.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitcruncher wrote:
UCF is showing itself to be a 2-bit operation. That won't sway any future votes in the Big East if they want to apply for membership at some point in the future.


Yes, they are, and no it won't. UCF is making a habit of this. ECU did SU a great injustice with this, and I see both as falling off the BEast radar, and rightly so. F them both.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how we did the Cuse an injustice... we paid the buyout and gave you our guranteed home game with Miami(Ohio) for 2006... its sitting on your schedule for Sept 23... we did not leave you scrambling for an opponent.... Holland did use it to try and get future 1-1's but when you've got VaTech, WVU, UNC, and NCSU willing to do it I can't blame him for trying... anyhow sorry you feel that way... as an ECU fan I wish the Cuse was on future schedules there were some pretty good games
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, stop. ECU held the last game over SU's head in an attempt to extend the series, after SU repeatedly attempted to help ECU with potential scheduling problems. They acted selfishly, and everyone knows it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ECU held the last game over SU's head in an attempt to extend the series


So there is a team out there that wants long term relationships with Big East teams and one that clearly does not???

Every team does what is best for the future of their program. ECU thought a long term contract with Syracuse was in their best interest. Syracuse decided it was not in theirs. ECU paid the buy-out, gave plenty of notice, and helped with scheduling. UCF paid $10,000. That is hardly a comparison of apples to apples.

I personally appreciate a program that shows a desire to play us in the future.
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